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Ah, a nice snoozer to cap the triple header to help lull everyone into their trytophan coma.
 

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Green Bay TE Lance Kendricks was cited for weed use in September. Comes not long after RB Aaron Jones was arrested for speeding while stoned. 
 
The Packers are a healthy Aaron Rodgers away from being a complete-shit show.  Seems like McCarthy is outstaying his welcome and the team lacks a ton of discipline.
 

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He's always been pretty average. I know he won a Super Bowl, but frankly that team has underachieved with him as the coach.
 

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Not really. They've gone to the playoffs nearly every year and, aside from the year they won the Super Bowl, they've always lacked something major, be it a solid defense, running, or OL.

They've haven't had a Super Bowl caliber team aside from that one year. That falls mostly on Ted Thompson. McCarthy is not a major issue or they'd have missed the playoffs a few times
 

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sure they've lacked something but they've been consistently picked as super bowl contenders. any other team would have fired their coach.
 

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They have the best QB in the league and solid pieces around him. That's enough to get to the Super Bowl every year, but come playoff time they always find a way to lose.
 

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No, they've been beaten by better teams the years they haven't gone. It wasn't good enough those years.

Football is the team sport of all sports. A great QB does not definitively make you better than every other team.
 

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Teagz said:
They have the best QB in the league and solid pieces around him. That's enough to get to the Super Bowl every year, but come playoff time they always find a way to lose.
If they have such solid pieces around Rodgers then why are they dogshit w/o him?
 

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BwareDWare94 said:
No, they've been beaten by better teams the years they haven't gone. It wasn't good enough those years.

Football is the team sport of all sports. A great QB does not definitively make you better than every other team.
They lose playoff games that they should have won, and they get blown out in games that were predicted to be close. That's coaching. They should have beat the Giants in 2011 and the should have finished the NFCCG against the Seahawks. They looked completely unprepared against the Niners when Kaepernick ran all over them, and in last year's game against the Falcons. 
 

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If they have such solid pieces around Rodgers then why are they dogshit w/o him?
Because McCarthy's offenses are completely dependent on the QB to be successful?
 

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Because McCarthy's offenses are completely dependent on the QB to be successful?
 
Most offenses are, but its hard to argue Green Bay has such a strong supporting cast when they've been awful without Rodgers. Most teams aren't as  good w/e their franchise QB but not all are as putrid as the Pack has been. Leads me to believe the Pack is a one man show, period.
 

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AE. said:
 
Most offenses are, but its hard to argue Green Bay has such a strong supporting cast when they've been awful without Rodgers. Most teams aren't as  good w/e their franchise QB but not all are as putrid as the Pack has been. Leads me to believe the Pack is a one man show, period.
But didnt Matt flynn help keep them afloat one year? They definitely have good receivers. No NFL team is flawless and losing Rodgers has shown a light on a lot more than just a lack of a backup QB
 

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CameronCrazy06 said:
But didnt Matt flynn help keep them afloat one year? They definitely have good receivers. No NFL team is flawless and losing Rodgers has shown a light on a lot more than just a lack of a backup QB
Did you contradict yourself here?

They have an awful backup but gaping holes in their skill positions s and defense either way. Literally need A Rog to outscore opponents to win
 

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I may have unintentionally. My message was that the packers with a decent backup would still be competitive in games.
 

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The roster just isn't that good, and hasn't been for some time. There's no balance--they always have glaring weaknesses. One year it's OL and RB, the next it's the secondary. And there's certain skill positions they've never really addressed. Have they had a decent running back since Ryan Grant's prime? No. They've never found a definitive answer at TE since Finley's freak injury. They've tried but Jared Cook just isn't that good and MartyB couldn't find anything resembling chemistry with Rodgers. I also don't like their DL from one side to the other. They have one stud along there at DT but other than that, it's not very impressive. Also, if there's an overrated player on Green Bay's roster, it is absolutely Clay Matthews. Losing Julius Peppers has been a bigger problem than expected. 
 
In the NFL you have to hope your franchise QB is a team guy like Brady or Aikman, or you might as well look at several positional groups each season and cross your fingers. Or draft out of your fucking mind, which nobody really does consistently because it is a crapshoot. 
 

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The Bears best play so far in this game came off a Mitch Trubisky interception.
 

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Alvin Kamara is a fantasy football monster. 
 

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