Jags Garrard is Week One Starter

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It'd be easy to throw Gabbert in there if Garrard was a complete slouch. He might not be great, but he's competent, and the Jags tend to beat lesser teams with him under center. Regardless of who the QB is, I think the Jags are going to compete for the division crown again. Indy's deteriorating and Houston has to take command from day 1 (they did last year, but they gotta hold it) or they never will.
 

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It'd be easy to throw Gabbert in there if Garrard was a complete slouch. He might not be great, but he's competent, and the Jags tend to beat lesser teams with him under center. Regardless of who the QB is, I think the Jags are going to compete for the division crown again. Indy's deteriorating and Houston has to take command from day 1 (they did last year, but they gotta hold it) or they never will.
This shows you have no clue what you're talking about.

With Garrard as starter, we lose more games against lesser teams.

Garrard also is scared to throw the ball if it isn't under 10 yards, and he ends up sacking himself. That has came out the mouth of Uche and Marcedes themselves. They say David is a good person, just time for a change.
 

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I don't know where you're getting that from. The only lesser team they lost to last year was the Redskins, and everybody has that one nasty loss on their schedule.
 

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I don't know where you're getting that from. The only lesser team they lost to last year was the Redskins, and everybody has that one nasty loss on their schedule.
Oh, so last year was the only year david garrard was a starter?

We lost both SD and Philly because of Garrard.. he was benched in the 4th QTR of the SD game, and wouldn't of played the rest of the year.. but Luke McCown torn his ACL a few plays later, so Garrard had to come back in.

We won the Cleveland game, but not because of him. He threw 4 Ints and almost costed us the game.

We lost the first Titan game because of Garrard.

If we had a solid QB to play in those games alone, we would of won and would of been in the playoffs with just 1 win.

2009.

Lost the Opening game to Indy because Garrard kept holding onto the ball too long and sacking himself.

Lost to Arizona, same problem.

Lost to Seattle 41-0... yeah.. Garrard fault.. he only got like 3 first downs the whole game.

Lost to San Fran 20-3.. Once again, Garrard.

Lost to Miami because Garrard fucked up and sacked himself on the last drive when we was going down field to win.

Lost the 2nd Indy game because Garrard threw a last min INT to Jacob Lacey when we was driving down field to win.

Lost to NE 35-7.. dont get me started on Garrard.

Lost to Cleveland in week 17. Yeah ....


Garrard is the type of player that will fuck up the whole first half, turn the ball over and the team will be up by 17 in the 2nd half, then Garrard will put up Garbage stats in Garbage time.. His numbers in a loss always is around 240 yards.. Give or take Ints and TDs. Hes not a good QB.. I can go back to 2008 if you really wanted to. Don't try to act like you know more about the Jaguars than me.
 

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Lol, just a perfect example of what could become of a QB who is thrown into the fire too early. Will that become of Gabbert? Who knows, maybe or maybe not. But it's certainly possible with any rookie QB.
 

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Lol, just a perfect example of what could become of a QB who is thrown into the fire too early. Will that become of Gabbert? Who knows, maybe or maybe not. But it's certainly possible with any rookie QB.
He wasn't comparing Gabbert to Harrington, he posted that because your dumbass posted Carr.

Seriously, tell me who you compare Gabbert to.... I'll wait.

Like I said before, if you're scared to play a guy because of who he might become.. then you made the wrong pick. The best way for a Rookie QB to learn is to throw him out there. Harrington and Carr had no Oline, no RB, no WR.. no nobody.

Gabbert will have MJD, Eugene Monroe and Eben Britton Brad Meester Uche and Vince on the Oline with the addition of Will Rackley who dominated his level of competition in college. Along with other weapons in Marcedes Lewis, Zach Miller, Mike Thomas, Jason Hill, Jarrett Dillard, Cecil Shorts, Rashad Jennings, Deji Karim. Alot of play making ability there.. Gabbert will be fine.

Let him hand it off to MJD 20+ times a game, and just manage it and don't turn the ball over and he instantly becomes better than Garrard.

BTW: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/john_lopez/07/08/qb.rule/index.html Gabbert passes this.
 

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He wasn't comparing Gabbert to Harrington, he posted that because your dumbass posted Carr.

I posted it because Carr and Harrington are both good examples of what could happen to a QB if they're thrown into action too soon.

And the "OK" gesture was a pretty funny response.
 

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You're right, Kammeh, I don't know more about the Jags than you do. They're one of those blip on my radar teams. Out of the AFC South, they're my favorite, and I pay attention to them. But you're the full-on fan, so of course you'd know more. Either way, I don't think Garrard deserves every bit of blame you give him. Your defense has been rather lackluster too. A lot of those games you lost, your D gave up 30+ points. Either way, Garrard might not be great or good, but he's certainly not a terrible QB. Do you want Rusty Smith? Alex Smith? Charlie Whitehurst? Joe Webb? DA? It could be worse, man.
 

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I posted it because Carr and Harrington are both good examples of what could happen to a QB if they're thrown into action too soon.

And the "OK" gesture was a pretty funny response.

Kam is far to dumb to figure out that we aren't comparing anyone to anyone. Just saying if you throw a QB into the fire to quickly that is what could happen. I even specifically said that I wasn't sure if Gabbert is ready or not.

You'll have to excuse Kam's ignorance, this is the same guy that thought 6=7... :lol:
 

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You're right, Kammeh, I don't know more about the Jags than you do. They're one of those blip on my radar teams. Out of the AFC South, they're my favorite, and I pay attention to them. But you're the full-on fan, so of course you'd know more. Either way, I don't think Garrard deserves every bit of blame you give him. Your defense has been rather lackluster too. A lot of those games you lost, your D gave up 30+ points. Either way, Garrard might not be great or good, but he's certainly not a terrible QB. Do you want Rusty Smith? Alex Smith? Charlie Whitehurst? Joe Webb? DA? It could be worse, man.

To be honest, yes.. I'd probably rather have Alex Smith, Charlie Whitehurst and Joe Webb.

The D gave up points, but Garrard didn't help by keeping them off the field. Garrard is the problem.


Kam is far to dumb to figure out that we aren't comparing anyone to anyone. Just saying if you throw a QB into the fire to quickly that is what could happen. I even specifically said that I wasn't sure if Gabbert is ready or not.

You'll have to excuse Kam's ignorance, this is the same guy that thought 6=7... :lol:

So wheres the examples of what good can come from throwing a QB out there too early?

Joe Flacco? Matt Ryan? Sanchez? Bradford?
 

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To be honest, yes.. I'd probably rather have Alex Smith, Charlie Whitehurst and Joe Webb.

The D gave up points, but Garrard didn't help by keeping them off the field. Garrard is the problem.




So wheres the examples of what good can come from throwing a QB out there too early?

Joe Flacco? Matt Ryan? Sanchez? Bradford?

I'd think those guys were a little more prepared then your Carrs, Harrington, and Leafs.

I'll repeat again, and probably again after this, a fourth time just for you. Gabbert may be stepping into a good situation for himself, he may not be. I don't really know.
 

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I'd think those guys were a little more prepared then your Carrs, Harrington, and Leafs.

I'll repeat again, and probably again after this, a fourth time just for you. Gabbert may be stepping into a good situation for himself, he may not be. I don't really know.
And as I've said for the 4th time, just for your dumbass.

He is, He has a great RB, a Great TE, 2 young good Bookend Tackles and Weapons at the WR position.

Gabberts not gonna be asked to do much, just make the reads, get the ball out in time, and don't turn it over.

If he does that, then hes automatically better than Garrard.
 

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You overrate Gabbert so much, it's like he's the savior or something.

It's hilarious... :lol:

Spread offense? Threw the ball 475 times? Only came away with 16 TD's + 9 INT's? Newton only threw it 280 times but had 30 TD's. Add to that questioned decision making and average accuracy (his throws are all over the place), you get a average QB.

And how'd I forget to mention the shotgun offense and questionable pocket presence?
 

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You overrate Gabbert so much, it's like he's the savior or something.

It's hilarious... :lol:

Spread offense? Threw the ball 475 times? Only came away with 16 TD's + 9 INT's? Newton only threw it 280 times but had 30 TD's. Add to that questioned decision making and average accuracy, you get a average QB... :lol:
You claim to know so much, yet you're such a dumbfuck its hilarious.

Bradford came from the same offense.. Cam Newton came from a Run Spread that builds around how you run the ball.

Bradford/Gabbert came from a passing spread.. 5 WRs and shit. During practice each week Gabbert was under center and is actually very Fluid under center.

Gabbert has good size, hes smart, can learn and grasp concepts quickly. Dudes got speed, a nice arm, better Accuracy than Locker and Newton.

He threw for 16 TDs because whenever they'd get in the redzone, Mizzou would run the ball because they didn't have a redzone threat. Thats from Gabberts mouth himself.

Check the year before when he actually had weapons.. Had 24 TDs and 9 ints. He doesn't turn the ball over alot.

Go watch film on him, then let me know besides hating on him because I speak the truth about him.
 

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Joe Webb is terrible. I can't believe anyone would take him over Garrard.
 

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Joe Webb is terrible. I can't believe anyone would take him over Garrard.
Joe Webb isn't terrible.. he was a rookie last year and did well when he was thrown to the fire.

You = Dumbass.
 

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Joe Webb isn't terrible.. he was a rookie last year and did well when he was thrown to the fire.

You = Dumbass.

No, he didn't do well. He couldn't move the Vikings consistenly when they had plenty of weapons. You're the guy who blames a team's shortcomings entirely on one player. I think it's you who's the dumbass.
 

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No, he didn't do well. He couldn't move the Vikings consistenly when they had plenty of weapons. You're the guy who blames a team's shortcomings entirely on one player. I think it's you who's the dumbass.
I like Joe Webb... His Oline was shit and he was running for his life.

When he was in, he did well.. the Vikings all around last year was a disaster.
 

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He'll be lucky if he's second string this year. The Vikes LOVE Ponder and I'm sure they'll either attempt to bring in McNabb or go after one of the lackluster free agents who might be able to do enough to win them some games.
 

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He'll be lucky if he's second string this year. The Vikes LOVE Ponder and I'm sure they'll either attempt to bring in McNabb or go after one of the lackluster free agents who might be able to do enough to win them some games.
That doesn't mean anything.

I know theres alot of teams that feel the same way I do about Joe Webb. He can play WR and QB.
 
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