Dwightmare Over! 4-Way Deal

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In a radio interview on Sunday, Stan Van Gundy said that he blames the Magic front office for the deterioration of the situation with Dwight Howard.

Van Gundy also believes that the Lakers are an ideal fit for Howard.

Van Gundy told the media on April 5th that Howard told the front office of the Magic that he wanted him fired. Van Gundy was fired as head coach following the end of the regular season.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222977/Van_Gundy_Magic_Front_Office_To_Blame_Not_Howard#ixzz23Rg5CYg4
 

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Karl Malone 2002-03
20.4 PP36, 7.7 RP36, 15.8 FGA36, .462 FG%
Karl Malone 2003-04 (LAL)
14.5 PP36, 9.6 RP36, 10.5 FGA36, .483 FG%

Gary Payton 2002-03
18.3 PP36, 7.4 AP36, 16.5 FGA36, .454 FG%
Gary Payton 2003-04 (LAL)
15.3 PP36, 5.7 AP36, 13.0 FGA36, .471 FG%

Kobe Bryant 2002-03
26.0 PP36, 6.0 RP36, 5.1 AP36, 20.4 FGA36, .451 FG%
Kobe Bryant 2003-04
22.9 PP36, 5.3 RP36, 4.9 AP36, 17.3 FGA36, .438 FG%

Shaquille O'Neal 2002-03
26.1 PP36, 10.5 RP36, 17.2 FGA36, .574 FG%
Shaquille O'Neal 2003-04
21.0 PP36, 11.2 RP36, 13.9 FGA36, .584 FG%




Dwight Howard 2011-12
19.4 PP36, 13.7 RP36, 12.6 FGA36, .573 FG%

Pau Gasol 2011-12
16.7 PP36, 10.0 RP36, 13.6 FGA36, .501 FG%

Kobe Bryant 2011-12
26.1 PP36, 5.0 RP36, 4.3 AP36, 21.5 FGA36, .430 FG%

Steve Nash 2011-12
14.2 PP36, 12.2 AP36, 10.2 FGA36, .532 FG%




Just felt like posting that information, on how their offense changed from one year to the next. From the four in 2002-03, they shot the ball a combined 69.9 times per 36 minutes. That number dropped by 15.2 shots per 36 the following year to 54.7 FGA36.


From the new four, they shot a combined 57.9 shots per 36. So in theory, their shot per game numbers might not have to go down that much, which is good for the Lakers. Because there is 76.4 PP36 just from those 4, which is higher than the 2003-04 Laker's Fab 4 (73.7 PP36)
 

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well it dates back to november 2011 lol
 

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Karl Malone 2002-03
20.4 PP36, 7.7 RP36, 15.8 FGA36, .462 FG%
Karl Malone 2003-04 (LAL)
14.5 PP36, 9.6 RP36, 10.5 FGA36, .483 FG%

Gary Payton 2002-03
18.3 PP36, 7.4 AP36, 16.5 FGA36, .454 FG%
Gary Payton 2003-04 (LAL)
15.3 PP36, 5.7 AP36, 13.0 FGA36, .471 FG%

Kobe Bryant 2002-03
26.0 PP36, 6.0 RP36, 5.1 AP36, 20.4 FGA36, .451 FG%
Kobe Bryant 2003-04
22.9 PP36, 5.3 RP36, 4.9 AP36, 17.3 FGA36, .438 FG%

Shaquille O'Neal 2002-03
26.1 PP36, 10.5 RP36, 17.2 FGA36, .574 FG%
Shaquille O'Neal 2003-04
21.0 PP36, 11.2 RP36, 13.9 FGA36, .584 FG%




Dwight Howard 2011-12
19.4 PP36, 13.7 RP36, 12.6 FGA36, .573 FG%

Pau Gasol 2011-12
16.7 PP36, 10.0 RP36, 13.6 FGA36, .501 FG%

Kobe Bryant 2011-12
26.1 PP36, 5.0 RP36, 4.3 AP36, 21.5 FGA36, .430 FG%

Steve Nash 2011-12
14.2 PP36, 12.2 AP36, 10.2 FGA36, .532 FG%




Just felt like posting that information, on how their offense changed from one year to the next. From the four in 2002-03, they shot the ball a combined 69.9 times per 36 minutes. That number dropped by 15.2 shots per 36 the following year to 54.7 FGA36.


From the new four, they shot a combined 57.9 shots per 36. So in theory, their shot per game numbers might not have to go down that much, which is good for the Lakers. Because there is 76.4 PP36 just from those 4, which is higher than the 2003-04 Laker's Fab 4 (73.7 PP36)
Did anyone read this
 

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Karl Malone 2002-03
20.4 PP36, 7.7 RP36, 15.8 FGA36, .462 FG%
Karl Malone 2003-04 (LAL)
14.5 PP36, 9.6 RP36, 10.5 FGA36, .483 FG%

Gary Payton 2002-03
18.3 PP36, 7.4 AP36, 16.5 FGA36, .454 FG%
Gary Payton 2003-04 (LAL)
15.3 PP36, 5.7 AP36, 13.0 FGA36, .471 FG%

Kobe Bryant 2002-03
26.0 PP36, 6.0 RP36, 5.1 AP36, 20.4 FGA36, .451 FG%
Kobe Bryant 2003-04
22.9 PP36, 5.3 RP36, 4.9 AP36, 17.3 FGA36, .438 FG%

Shaquille O'Neal 2002-03
26.1 PP36, 10.5 RP36, 17.2 FGA36, .574 FG%
Shaquille O'Neal 2003-04
21.0 PP36, 11.2 RP36, 13.9 FGA36, .584 FG%




Dwight Howard 2011-12
19.4 PP36, 13.7 RP36, 12.6 FGA36, .573 FG%

Pau Gasol 2011-12
16.7 PP36, 10.0 RP36, 13.6 FGA36, .501 FG%

Kobe Bryant 2011-12
26.1 PP36, 5.0 RP36, 4.3 AP36, 21.5 FGA36, .430 FG%

Steve Nash 2011-12
14.2 PP36, 12.2 AP36, 10.2 FGA36, .532 FG%




Just felt like posting that information, on how their offense changed from one year to the next. From the four in 2002-03, they shot the ball a combined 69.9 times per 36 minutes. That number dropped by 15.2 shots per 36 the following year to 54.7 FGA36.


From the new four, they shot a combined 57.9 shots per 36. So in theory, their shot per game numbers might not have to go down that much, which is good for the Lakers. Because there is 76.4 PP36 just from those 4, which is higher than the 2003-04 Laker's Fab 4 (73.7 PP36)
 

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If Rob Hennigan was general manager of the Magic in 2004, Dwight Howard would have already have multiple championships.

When Tracy McGrady requested a trade from the Magic after that season, he was dealt to the Rockets in exchange for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato. Orlando received no picks in the trade and they began to build around Howard as a mediocre team.

The Magic had the 11th selection in 2005 (Fran Vazquez) and 2006 (J.J. Redick), then traded what would be the 15th overall pick in 2007 for Darko Milicic. Orlando then selected 22nd in 2008 (Courtney Lee) and traded away the 27th pick in 2009.

Contrast that with the Thunder, who had the fourth pick in 2008 (Russell Westbrook) and third pick in 2009 (James Harden) to add to Kevin Durant with the second overall pick in 2007. Sam Presti, Hennigan's mentor, immediately traded away Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis with virtually nothing in return because he was committed to building around Durant over the long-term.

The objective is to be extraordinarily bad for several subsequent seasons, accumulate high drafted prospects, develop that talent and then draft complementary players with the additional picks.

Hennigan comes from the Spurs/Thunder tree and this is the path Orlando will head down over the next three or four seasons.

Trading away Howard should theoretically give the Magic a better return on paper than Arron Afflalo, Nikola Vucevic, Maurice Harkless, Al Harrington, Josh McRoberts, three protected future first rounders and a second rounder, but it is certainly a better trade than Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom and Goran Dragic (Hornets' original agreed trade of Chris Paul). Afflalo may not be as good as Eric Gordon and the pick that became Austin Rivers (Clippers' trade), but he is a legitimate two-way starter at shooting guard.

The real value in the trade is the stockpile of picks and the ability to be bad. The Magic may not have acquired any player in this deal that will ever play in an All-Star Game, but they are off the mediocrity treadmill and losing 60 games annually over the next two or three seasons, as cynical as it sounds, is the clearest path in finding their next franchise player.

The Rockets' trade offer had better value picks and I would have preferred it, but it is clear that this trade beats Brooklyn's offer centered around Brook Lopez, as well as the aforementioned McGrady deal. It also is better than simply switching out Howard for Andrew Bynum (free agent in 2013) and a 2017 first rounder from the Lakers.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/article/222937/Grading_The_Deal_Dwight_To_Lakers_In_Most_Important_NBA_Trade_In_Over_30_Years#ixzz23mYV5Mh5
Sometimes you just gotta be bad for a few years in order to be good. That's just how it is...
 

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Jim Buss just told us on @ESPNLA710 that when Orlando called and wanted Bynum for Howard, the Lakers said "you have 36 hours or it's off."
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Orlando agreed and the deal went down in one day.
 

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but they didnt get howard so LOL
 

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totally meant bynum ha.
 

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