Sanchize Top 10 QB?

[Pugz]

Bart Scott said Mark Sanchez is capable of being a top-10 NFL quarterback.

Sanchez agrees that is something for him to aim for.

"Sure," Sanchez said. "You've got to think that. You've got to play like that. As soon as you step out there, you've got to be the baddest guy out there, the toughest, the best, the most accurate and you've got to want to win. I think we have a lot of guys like that. That's good for us."

Sanchez has had a strong training camp.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Top 10.... in the AFC East lol

 

[TTN2810]

I'd say he has the potential to for sure. IDK if he'll get there with the Jets. He can though. Just not yet, and not close, based on last year. I think by the end of this year he'll either be a top 10 QB, or we'll know he's just a career starter.

 

[RipCity32]

Tebow's inspiration must be rubbing off on him.

 

[cruzg24]

Omg, first Eli says the elite stuff and now every QB has to rank themselves in the league. Whose next Matt Ryan thinks hes a top 8 QB?

 

[TTN2810]

I think that's an accurate statement lol
Ryan is in the 8-10 range.


I found this interesting. Sanchez's stats during training camp 11 on:

Mark Sanchez completed 93-of-179 passes (52%) with five touchdowns and seven interceptions. He had one rushing score.

 

[bosoxlover12]

Matt Ryan is not a Top 10 QB lmao


Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Stafford, Schaub, Romo

That's just 10, there are more

 

[cruzg24]

Matt Ryan is not a Top 10 QB lmao


Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Stafford, Schaub, Romo

That's just 10, there are more

Yea, but the point is these QB's are over-ranking themselves lol.

 

[TTN2810]

What the hell has Matt Shaub done that Matt Ryan hasn't? Or Tony Romo for that matter? Bosox, please don't act arrogant like that, please. Don't add that little "lmao" when it's something that is totally based on opinion. Shaub nor Romo have won a SB, Shaub hasn't won a playoff game, and both have similar stats to Ryan. It's not crazy to think Ryan is better than either one of them, like you make it out to seem.

 

[BwareDWare94]

What the hell has Matt Shaub done that Matt Ryan hasn't? Or Tony Romo for that matter? Bosox, please don't act arrogant like that, please. Don't add that little "lmao" when it's something that is totally based on opinion. Shaub nor Romo have won a SB, Shaub hasn't won a playoff game, and both have similar stats to Ryan. It's not crazy to think Ryan is better than either one of them, like you make it out to seem.

Tony Romo has, you know, at least played decent in the playoffs even if he only has one win. He's better in just about every statistical category except home record and is much more dangerous than Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan needs excellent weapons in order to produce. Tony can make sub par players look very good (Laurent Robinson, Patrick Crayton, aging vets like Terry Glenn and Keyshawn Johnson).

There really is no argument for Matt Ryan over Tony Romo. Not even close.

Also, if Matt Schaub could stay healthy, you'd have no argument for placing Ryan over him, either. Matt Ryan, like the Falcons, is incredibly overrated.

 

[TTN2810]

Tony Romo has, you know, at least played decent in the playoffs even if he only has one win. He's better in just about every statistical category except home record and is much more dangerous than Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan needs excellent weapons in order to produce. Tony can make sub par players look very good (Laurent Robinson, Patrick Crayton, aging vets like Terry Glenn and Keyshawn Johnson).

There really is no argument for Matt Ryan over Tony Romo. Not even close.

Also, if Matt Schaub could stay healthy, you'd have no argument for placing Ryan over him, either. Matt Ryan, like the Falcons, is incredibly overrated.

There's also something called being a team leader that neither Romo or Shaub have that Ryan has. The QB needs to lead the team, and Romo doesn't lead. He leaves that to Ware it seems. Romo will never win a SB, because he doesn't live and breathe football. And don't give me this weapons talk bullshit. How about we talk about the pass happy QB friendly system Romo has played in too? Nope, you shy away from that aspect of it.

 

[BwareDWare94]

On another note, how is Mark Sanchez supposed to take the next step when the Jets don't even give him weapons? They need a running back. They need a #1 receiver because Santonio Holmes is the definition of overrated and should be listed as a #2.

If they want Sanchez to succeed so damn badly, then why not put him in position to succeed?

 

[TTN2810]

On another note, how is Mark Sanchez supposed to take the next step when the Jets don't even give him weapons? They need a running back. They need a #1 receiver because Santonio Holmes is the definition of overrated and should be listed as a #2.

If they want Sanchez to succeed so damn badly, then why not put him in position to succeed?

Because they're the Jets lol

 

[Shaka]

These quotes are always over analysed for the sake of talking junk haha.

A player will always say his teammate is better than he is, unless his teammate is already the best in which he says he's the best. You wouldn't be a teammate if you didn't. Plain and simple. This often happens with QB's(Vincent Jackson said it about Freeman) because you want to build the confidence of your QB before the season.

On the same side as that, a Quarterback will always think he's a top tier Quarterback. Who admits they are not? It's ludicrous.

I guarantee you that every Cornerback in the NFL feels he is the best Corner in the NFL. If you don't, you're likely to fail and not last in this league. Same goes for every position. Really isn't much to say on these stories but "ok."

 

[Hurricane Season]

These quotes are always over analysed for the sake of talking junk haha.

A player will always say his teammate is better than he is, unless his teammate is already the best in which he says he's the best. You wouldn't be a teammate if you didn't. Plain and simple. This often happens with QB's(Vincent Jackson said it about Freeman) because you want to build the confidence of your QB before the season.

On the same side as that, a Quarterback will always think he's a top tier Quarterback. Who admits they are not? It's ludicrous.

I guarantee you that every Cornerback in the NFL feels he is the best Corner in the NFL. If you don't, you're likely to fail and not last in this league. Same goes for every position. Really isn't much to say on these stories but "ok."

Exactly. If there is a player on my team that doesn't have that mindset, I don't want that player on my team.

 

[Teagz]

Lol how many times have we had this argument in the past 3 months?

 

[ZigZag]

Matt Ryan is not a Top 10 QB lmao


Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Stafford, Schaub, Romo

That's just 10, there are more

are you fucking retarded?

 

[BwareDWare94]

There's also something called being a team leader that neither Romo or Shaub have that Ryan has. The QB needs to lead the team, and Romo doesn't lead. He leaves that to Ware it seems. Romo will never win a SB, because he doesn't live and breathe football. And don't give me this weapons talk bullshit. How about we talk about the pass happy QB friendly system Romo has played in too? Nope, you shy away from that aspect of it.

Or why don't we talk about the running game that has been dominant for most of Matt Ryan's career? Matt Ryan would not be nearly as success as Tony Romo in Dallas.

And Romo is plenty of a team leader. Anybody who watches games, listens to huddles, or sees him on the sideline knows he's a team leader. And as far as Ryan being a leader, team leaders don't no-show in the playoffs. Team leaders don't lose the #1 seed before halftime of a playoff game by throwing one of the worst playoff interceptions in history.

Back to Romo as a leader. Jesse Holley, however many yards to beat SF. Romo was putting confidence in Holley's ear before the play even happened. That's only one example, but you don't need any more.

 

[Teagz]

Or why don't we talk about the running game that has been dominant for most of Matt Ryan's career? Matt Ryan would not be nearly as success as Tony Romo in Dallas.

And Romo is plenty of a team leader. Anybody who watches games, listens to huddles, or sees him on the sideline knows he's a team leader. And as far as Ryan being a leader, team leaders don't no-show in the playoffs. Team leaders don't lose the #1 seed before halftime of a playoff game by throwing one of the worst playoff interceptions in history.

Back to Romo as a leader. Jesse Holley, however many yards to beat SF. Romo was putting confidence in Holley's ear before the play even happened. That's only one example, but you don't need any more.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201001170min.htm

 

[TTN2810]

Or why don't we talk about the running game that has been dominant for most of Matt Ryan's career? Matt Ryan would not be nearly as success as Tony Romo in Dallas.

And Romo is plenty of a team leader. Anybody who watches games, listens to huddles, or sees him on the sideline knows he's a team leader. And as far as Ryan being a leader, team leaders don't no-show in the playoffs. Team leaders don't lose the #1 seed before halftime of a playoff game by throwing one of the worst playoff interceptions in history.

Back to Romo as a leader. Jesse Holley, however many yards to beat SF. Romo was putting confidence in Holley's ear before the play even happened. That's only one example, but you don't need any more.

Dominant running game? What are you watching?

Let's look at this season wise.

2011 - Atlanta: 1834 yards, 4.0 YPC
2011 - Dallas: 1807, 4.4 YPC

As you can see, last year ATL has less the 30 more yards rushing, and Dallas had a better YPC.

2010 - Atlanta: 1891 yards, 3.8 YPC (Dominant? I think not lol)
2010 - Dallas: 1786 yards, 4.2 YPC

Again, Atlant only had 100 more yards, but Dallas again was more efficient.

2009 - Atlanta: 1876 yards, 4.2 YPC
2009 - Dallas: 2103 yards, 4.8 YPC

This year, Dallas had more total yards, and was more efficient.

2008 - Atlanta: 2443 yards, 4.4 YPC
2008 - Dallas: 1723, 4.3 YPC

Finally, 2008, Matt Ryan's rookie year, the Falcons had more yards, and were more efficient. So as we see here, the stats are very close 3/4 years, with Dallas being more efficient 3/4 years, and Atlanta's rushing game being better in only Ryan's ROOKIE year. So if you think Atlanta's rushing attack is dominant, so is Dallas'. You cannot use the excuse that Ryan's rushing attack is better than Romo's anymore friend.

Not only this, thinking with a football mind set and using simple mathematics, if Dallas is running for less yards, but more yards per carry, that means they have fewer attempts, which also means Dallas' offense is more pass happy than Atlanta's. It is centred around the pass. Another reason we can't go by individual QB stats when comparing these two.

However this is my last post in this thread. I could give you the most logical answers to all of your Romo excuses, and you wouldn't listen, so there's no point in even debating this anymore.