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bosoxlover12 said:
https://twitter.com/andrewsharp/status/1096802196220530690
 
Apparently he said every team but the Pelicans is on his list lol
 

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AD owns

https://twitter.com/SeanDeveney/status/1096813439505362944?s=09
 

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nolafan33 said:
Here's another interesting scenario. I've seen it put at about an 85% chance that AD is a Celtic next year. The framework is already agreed upon and it's a good one, with no assurances necessary from AD, but I've been saying that for weeks. That will be a move that will set the course of the Pelicans for the next decade, perhaps even longer. The Pelicans top candidate for GM is Danny Ainge's right hand man, Mike Zarren. How do you hire him and have his first task be negotiating with his former boss and friend? But do you pass on a long term guy because of issues in his first week? I think the pros outweigh the cons, but there are definitely some cons there.

- Zarren won't try to screw Ainge. The Pels arguably have the leverage in a situation with multiple bidders. Will Zarren ask Ainge for what's reasonable or squeeze him for everything he knows he'll give up?

- Zarren will be biased towards the Boston package. This probably only matters if someone else is offering a non Zion top 3 pick, but I assume Zarren would give the benefit of the doubt to the Boston assets he knows well. But it's certainly possible that he could overvalue the Boston assets, it's widely known that humans overvalue their possessions. Isn't it possible that Zarren overvalues some Boston assets because he knows them so well. He doesn't just know Marcus Smart the player. He knows Marcus Smart the man, and while that can be useful, it could also make a decision emotional, rather than just logical.

I know that's a long reply, but I find it fascinating.
they just named Danny ferry GM though

Edit: oh interim. Interesting though. I figure he'll be there a while?
 

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Mexi said:
they just named Danny ferry GM though

Edit: oh interim. Interesting though. I figure he'll be there a while?
Everything Ive heard says theyll start completely fresh. Ferry may not even want to be a GM anymore, hes been consulting for years.
 

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This is such a mess.
 
Technically the Jazz are on his list *eyes* haha
 

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nolafan33 said:
Here's another interesting scenario. I've seen it put at about an 85% chance that AD is a Celtic next year. The framework is already agreed upon and it's a good one, with no assurances necessary from AD, but I've been saying that for weeks. That will be a move that will set the course of the Pelicans for the next decade, perhaps even longer. The Pelicans top candidate for GM is Danny Ainge's right hand man, Mike Zarren. How do you hire him and have his first task be negotiating with his former boss and friend? But do you pass on a long term guy because of issues in his first week? I think the pros outweigh the cons, but there are definitely some cons there.

- Zarren won't try to screw Ainge. The Pels arguably have the leverage in a situation with multiple bidders. Will Zarren ask Ainge for what's reasonable or squeeze him for everything he knows he'll give up?

- Zarren will be biased towards the Boston package. This probably only matters if someone else is offering a non Zion top 3 pick, but I assume Zarren would give the benefit of the doubt to the Boston assets he knows well. But it's certainly possible that he could overvalue the Boston assets, it's widely known that humans overvalue their possessions. Isn't it possible that Zarren overvalues some Boston assets because he knows them so well. He doesn't just know Marcus Smart the player. He knows Marcus Smart the man, and while that can be useful, it could also make a decision emotional, rather than just logical.

I know that's a long reply, but I find it fascinating.
If Zarren is named the GM of the Pelicans, Anthony Davis will get traded to Boston. Zarren was the favorite to be the Sixers GM before he took himself out of consideration and that's a significantly more appealing franchise to run. He'd only go to New Orleans because he would know some of his players already.
 
Now over on Celtics reddit I worked up a trade that worked financially that didn't impose on anything from Free Agency (like Rozier wanting to S&T to the Pels for instance) and that did not include Tatum. And by the end of it, I posted it because I spent a good amount of time and research into the deal but my stance changed on what Boston should offer. 
 
If you're trading for Anthony Davis, you're all in. Davis will have one year left on his contract before he's a UFA. Financially, it makes the most sense for Kyrie to sign a 2+1 max, so he can opt out and get 35% of a max rather than 30% that he's signing this year over 4-5 years. If you don't seriously contend in the 2019-20 season, Davis will leave and then Kyrie will be in a 1+1 contract (aka exactly the scenario that New Orleans is in right now). 
 
To complete the deal financially, two of Smart - Tatum - Brown would have to be in the deal. Jaylen's gone, but I really don't see Smart and Tatum being both dealt. 
 

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"Now over on Celtics reddit I worked up a trade that worked financially that didn't impose on anything from Free Agency (like Rozier wanting to S&T to the Pels for instance) and that did not include Tatum"


Lmao
 

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zarren, jaylen, rozier for AD. get it done.
 

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We can just stop talking about an AD to Boston deal without Tatum being involved. Its a waste of time. Tatum, Smart, Williams, and the Memphis pick are already agreed upon.
 

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Mexi said:
"Now over on Celtics reddit I worked up a trade that worked financially that didn't impose on anything from Free Agency (like Rozier wanting to S&T to the Pels for instance) and that did not include Tatum"


Lmao
it got gilded too lmao
 

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nolafan33 said:
We can just stop talking about an AD to Boston deal without Tatum being involved. Its a waste of time. Tatum, Smart, Williams, and the Memphis pick are already agreed upon.
no zarren for you
 

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nolafan33 said:
We can just stop talking about an AD to Boston deal without Tatum being involved. Its a waste of time. Tatum, Smart, Williams, and the Memphis pick are already agreed upon.
shitty package
 

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nolafan33 said:
We can just stop talking about an AD to Boston deal without Tatum being involved. Its a waste of time. Tatum, Smart, Williams, and the Memphis pick are already agreed upon.
Jaylen Brown makes the most sense to be dealt and you're not even saying he's moving? smh
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
Jaylen Brown makes the most sense to be dealt and you're not even saying he's moving? smh
he clearly wants tatum. better for boston. JB is closer to mj anyways
 

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bosoxlover12 said:
Jaylen Brown makes the most sense to be dealt and you're not even saying he's moving? smh
I dont know what the deal with Brown is. He may have been discussed and he may not have been discussed. No clue. I just know what theyve already agreed on without needing assurances from AD. They probably have discussed packages in the event AD gives some sort of assurance you Boston, but I havent heard anything about that so I cant speak on it.
 

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They already agreed on it?

What if Kyrie walks? Still doing it?

So many answers fletcher


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I've heard they will pursue AD no matter what Kyrie does.
 
But obviously they want both.
 

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AD will just walk next year if Kyrie isnt there

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