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#41 OFFLINE   .ptt81

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 09:53 PM

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:14 AM

Still don't know how good this guy really is.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 09:16 AM

Still don't know how good this guy really is.


Still don't know why this matters. Teams have spent far more for unproven foreign players.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 09:49 AM

The total investment is gonna be like 30 million over 3 years if you include posting fees, which is a small amount to pay to find out if he is good
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:16 AM

Still don't know why this matters. Teams have spent far more for unproven foreign players.

 

For me its not about the dollars spent. Teams have obviously spent a ton more on foreign players from Asia and Cuba.

 

He turns out shit? Not the end of the world.

 

For me its about the hype that this guy has, when we haven't even seen him throw a major league pitch.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 12:10 PM

Again,who cares? Darvish, dice-k, Tanaka had huge expectations. Expectations are always high. That's why he doesn't want to be in New York or Boston - he wants to prove himself but not be widely judged on day 1.

This guy actually seems pretty smart and like a good person. Doesn't care about the money. Wants to prove a 2-way star is possible. Wants to be somewhere where he can have an impact on the Japanese community. All-around great guy so far. That's why every team wants him. I want him I don't even own a MLB team.

Tl;Dr- seems like a good guy. Just sit back and see how he develops.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 12:37 PM

Again,who cares? Darvish, dice-k, Tanaka had huge expectations. Expectations are always high. That's why he doesn't want to be in New York or Boston - he wants to prove himself but not be widely judged on day 1.

This guy actually seems pretty smart and like a good person. Doesn't care about the money. Wants to prove a 2-way star is possible. Wants to be somewhere where he can have an impact on the Japanese community. All-around great guy so far. That's why every team wants him. I want him I don't even own a MLB team.

Tl;Dr- seems like a good guy. Just sit back and see how he develops.

But what if I want to judge him without ever watching him play?
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CC's career is done here. the kid takes NO input at all and everything he does is "top secret". shit, he doesnt even post here since his whole fbb shit. fuck him


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 12:54 PM

Well he's been called the Japanese Babe Ruth without ever taking a major league swing or throwing a pitch to a major league hitter. As I've said, the media needs to get off this guy's dick until he's played an inning of North American ball. 

 

I'm pretty sure ZIPS ran a projection for him and his MLB adjusted numbers were in line with a number 2 pitcher. Everyone would love a free number two, but is it really worth the hype?


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:10 PM

The hype only affects one person - Ohtani. This doesn't hurt whoever gets him. Because whoever signs him - if he's a bust they're just like "what's the problem? 31 other teams wanted him too."
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:14 PM

You're also adjusting those numbers and saying he's a #2. The guy is 23. A lot of #2 pitchers don't get to the league at 23. This guys ahead of the curve.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

A head of the curve for sure. But that doesn't smell like a Japanese Babe Ruth or $200 or $300 million dollar man to me.

 

Also who is to say he makes the major leagues at 23? What if he takes a two year adjustment period in North America? There's no absolutes with prospects. Maybe I'm more pessimistic after Dice-K, but it just seems like all the time there are prospects that prove to be very underwhelming. I'm reserving judgment until he's at the big league level.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:34 PM

I think most people are reserving judgement.

From what I've read, s outs say he can be a big league pitcher today. Hitting might take some time in the minors to refine his swing and approach. So right now, I expect to see him in the majors pretty soon.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:53 PM

But what if I want to judge him without ever watching him play?

just mention the term #futuredodger enough and maybe itll come true
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:21 PM

Mariners
Angels (already have a full OF and pujols is pretty much a fulltime dh not sure how he would fit there)
Giants
Dodgers
Padres
Cubs
Rangers

The final 7
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:52 PM

He says he wants to play in a small market but then he lists 3 teams from LA or Chicago in his final 7 so who really knows. Mariners make the most sense, would love to see him on the Cubs tho


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:04 PM

So Chicago and Dallas are small towns on the West Coast?  I guess I should study geography better.


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#57 OFFLINE   Mexi

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:06 PM

He says he wants to play in a small market but then he lists 3 teams from LA or Chicago in his final 7 so who really knows. Mariners make the most sense, would love to see him on the Cubs tho

i think salty cashman is the reason for the market narrative
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:49 PM

So Chicago and Dallas are small towns on the West Coast?  I guess I should study geography better.

Los Angeles
Los Angeles
San Fran

Is what Im guessing hes referring to
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 11:13 PM

Guessing if he chose the angels he wouldnt live in LA. Doubt any angel does
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 11:24 PM

Los Angeles
Los Angeles
San Fran

Is what Im guessing hes referring to

I'm talking about the Dodgers, Angels, and Cubs.

Ohtani said he wants to be in a small market and on the West Coast, but that only applies to really 2/7 finalists he named. The Mariners (Smaller market) and Padres.


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