bosoxlover12's 2015 NFL Season Predictions

bosoxlover12 · Aug 2, 2015

AFC EAST:
New England: 12-4
New York: 11-5
Miami: 10-6
Buffalo: 6-10

AFC NORTH:
Baltimore: 12-4
Pittsburgh: 11-5
Cincinnati: 10-6
Cleveland: 4-12

AFC SOUTH:
Indianapolis: 10-6
Houston: 9-7
Tennessee: 3-13
Jacksonville: 2-14

AFC WEST:
Denver: 13-3
San Diego: 9-7
Kansas City: 6-10
Oakland 4-12

NFC EAST:
Dallas: 12-4
Philadelphia: 11-5
New York: 7-9
Washington: 5-11

NFC NORTH:
Green Bay: 13-3
Detroit: 10-6
Minnesota: 9-7
Chicago: 3-13

NFC SOUTH:
Carolina: 10-6
Atlanta: 7-9
New Orleans: 6-10
Tampa Bay: 4-12

NFC WEST:
Seattle: 13-3
Arizona: 7-9
St. Louis: 5-11
San Francisco: 2-14

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AFC:
1. Denver
2. New England
3. Baltimore
4. Indianapolis
5. Pittsburgh
6. New York

NFC:
1. Green Bay
2. Seattle
3. Dallas
4. Carolina
5. Philadelphia
6. Detroit

Wild Card:
Baltimore over New York
Pittsburgh over Indianapolis
Dallas over Detroit (again lol)
Philadelphia over Carolina

Divisional:
Pittsburgh over Denver
New England over Baltimore
Green Bay over Philadelphia
Dallas over Seattle

Conference:
New England over Pittsburgh
Green Bay over Dallas

Super Bowl 50:
New England over Green Bay

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OROY: Nelson Agholor, WR, PHI
DROY: Trae Waynes, CB, MIN

The other awards are the normal boring Rodgers/Rodgers/Watt recipients.

Hurricane Season · Aug 2, 2015

I feel like Oakland is about to take that next step. Maybe not a playoff step, but something like 8 wins wouldn't shock me. I also feel like Jacksonville could be better than a lot of people think.

Other than that, I can't really argue with much.

bosoxlover12 · Aug 2, 2015

Tough schedules were the problem. I wanted to get Cleveland, Oakland, and KC more wins but they just have really hard schedules

jonathanlambert33 · Aug 3, 2015

No way the Saints only win 6 games

CameronCrazy06 · Aug 3, 2015

He picked the Patriots, what a surprise

Giantmetfan07 · Aug 3, 2015

Obviously I'd pick giants to win the WC, but I think it will be close between them and Philly. They'll probably finosh a game apart.

bosoxlover12 · Aug 3, 2015

CameronCrazy06 said:
He picked the Patriots, what a surprise

I've picked NE over GB for like 4-5 years now, and I won't stop until it happens lol

And it's not like it's such an outlandish homer concept. I'm not saying the Celtics are winning the Finals or anything; the Pats are still one of the 4 best teams in the league

bosoxlover12 · Aug 3, 2015

GMF1991 said:
Obviously I'd pick giants to win the WC, but I think it will be close between them and Philly. They'll probably finosh a game apart.

Eli struggles without a good OL, and your line isn't the strongest. You have great receivers (Vereen, ODB, Cruz, Jones) but I'm not sure it'll be enough. Plus the defense could be more desireable

bosoxlover12 · Aug 3, 2015

nolafan33 said:
No way the Saints only win 6 games

You host Dallas, New York (N), Tennessee, Detroit, and Jacksonville. You play on the road at Arizona, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Washington, and Houston.

Now, the Saints record at home has been significantly better than on the road. So you look at the road schedule, and I'd give the Saints 1-2 wins. They'll beat Washington most likely, and maybe they can beat Arizona or Houston. At home, they'll win versus Tennessee and Jacksonville. They could possibly win against the Giants as well.

Then they play their division games, in which a 3-3 split is probable. Carolina is much better than New Orleans imo, and Atlanta will split.

I gave them a win at Washington, wins hosting the Titans, Jags, Falcons, and Bucs twice, which is 6 wins. I could see them anywhere from 6-10 wins this season, but personally I think the lower is the more likely outcome.

He's an idiot, but you did lose your most effective pass rusher from this past season. And on offense you lost a very good WR 2 and your best offensive receiver by far. I know Hill looks very promising, but Graham was targeted 120 times and had 10 TDs. Look at when Tom Brady was playing without Gronk back in 2013 -- the offense was not that good, despite the Pats having solid other targets in Edelman, Amendola, Vereen, Dobson, etc. While Hill will be pretty solid, I think Graham will be a significant loss for Brees. Having Cooks will help alleviate that somewhat.

So yeah, I think New Orleans ends up with 6 wins. I think the Giants match up favorably to them, as do the Texans, and those are the two toss-up games for this schedule.

Giantmetfan07 · Aug 3, 2015

bosoxlover12 said:
Eli struggles without a good OL, and your line isn't the strongest. You have great receivers (Vereen, ODB, Cruz, Jones) but I'm not sure it'll be enough. Plus the defense could be more desireable

Well we made some improvements on the linr. Schwartz is healthy and we drafted a kid (drawing a blank on his name). Obviously it ain't perfect, and I'm going to hold judgement until I see them in action - but it's definitely an improvement over last year.

The defense is definitely a concern though. Idk, I gotta try and remain optomistic.

jonathanlambert33 · Aug 3, 2015

You REALLLLLLY underrate the Saints.

You talk about how "yall lost this, yall lost that" but that is NEVER true in sports. You always gain something from subtraction. Whether that be just cap space that you use to sign other free agents, draft picks, etc. If the Saints keep some of those guys, they can't bring in some of the other guys they did.

bosoxlover12 · Aug 3, 2015

But who did they bring in?

They cut Pierre Thomas and Cadet, to bring in Spiller. Its an upgrade in terms of running the ball, but a downgrade in receiving out of the backfield. And Spiller isn't better than Ingram, so really you just lost your two best receiving backs for a RB2. Spiller's good, and has great burst, but he seems miscast in his role.

They got Unger to upgrade over Goodwin. Having a good center is always good for a QB, but I thought Goodwin was pretty decent. Definitely not as good as Unger, but not a "we need to replace this guy" level. And Unger's pass protection in Seattle was always suspect in Seattle, where he struggled a decent bit of the time. New Orleans' interior running game should be improved (yay for Ingram, who I like), but its not as significant of an upgrade as one would think. Unger isn't really Pro Bowl talent as a pass protector.

Brandon Browner is now your CB2, which means I can only hope you are playing Cover 1/3 defense, because he can't play outside of that. I would know, I just watched 15 games from him this past season. He's good if you put Byrd right over him, which will put Vaccaro in a very difficult position. He struggled big time last year, and if he plays the same way that could be very worrisome. I also don't love the combination of Breaux/Wilson/SJB in the slot, as teams like the Giants will extremely exploit this mismatch.

The Saints lost more than they got this offseason, plain and simple. I wasn't discrediting them in saying they didn't get anything in return for their losses, but they weren't substantial. You lost the best receiver the Saints franchise has had since Joe Horn and replaced him in-house. Maybe Hill steps up, maybe he doesn't. Regardless, he won't fill that 120 target void. You traded Kenny Stills for Ellerbe, which was just plain stupid. Thank god you drafted Anthony because Ellerbe should lose that starting job before Week 1 -- he's awful. Stills did great as the #2 WR, and you again didn't get a replacement for him.

You're losing 316 targets just from Stills, Graham, Thomas, and Cadet. Spiller had 22 targets last year (granted didn't play all year, but when scaled up it equates to about 39 targets), and Josh Hill had 20. Cooks, who had 70 targets, is expected to have a significantly larger role, which I hope he flourishes in because I think extremely high of him, but that's a lot of pressure on the young kid.

And let's not make the 6 win total such a ridiculous concept here. You won 7 games last year, and I predicted a 1 win drop-off due to a harder schedule and loss of talented receivers. They hardly dropped off compared to Arizona and Kansas City, according to my predictions.

jonathanlambert33 · Aug 3, 2015

I'm not gonna read all that right now cuz I'm at work, but I'll respond later. I will say now though, there was nothing decent about Goodwin last season. The guy was absolutely horrific in every way . Going from Goodwin to Unger will be huge and will go a long ways towards improving the entire offensive line.

jonathanlambert33 · Aug 3, 2015

bosoxlover12 said:
But who did they bring in?

They cut Pierre Thomas and Cadet, to bring in Spiller. Its an upgrade in terms of running the ball, but a downgrade in receiving out of the backfield. And Spiller isn't better than Ingram, so really you just lost your two best receiving backs for a RB2. Spiller's good, and has great burst, but he seems miscast in his role.

I think you're really underselling Spillers receiving role out of the backfield. He's a guy that has really shown ability to catch the ball out of the backfield, and now he's coming to a team that does a better job than arguably anyone at getting their backs passes out of the backfield. He's not playing with Orton, Fitzpatrick, or Manuel anymore, and while Pierre was great in that pass role, he couldn't match what guys like Reggie and Sproles have done in the past. Sean Payton specifically targeted Spiller for his pass catching abilities and has talked glowingly all offseason about the skills Spiller has presented in that fashion. I really couldn't disagree with you anymore than I do on this topic.

They got Unger to upgrade over Goodwin. Having a good center is always good for a QB, but I thought Goodwin was pretty decent. Definitely not as good as Unger, but not a "we need to replace this guy" level. And Unger's pass protection in Seattle was always suspect in Seattle, where he struggled a decent bit of the time. New Orleans' interior running game should be improved (yay for Ingram, who I like), but its not as significant of an upgrade as one would think. Unger isn't really Pro Bowl talent as a pass protector.

Like I already said, Goodwin was awful last year. It's kind of funny and sad at the same time, when he went down with an injury (his struggles could have been due to injury, I'm not sure) and Tim Lelito took over this offseason really seemed to take off. When he played the majority of the snaps, the team scored 36 points a game and ran for 146 yards a game. There were also reports that Goodwin struggled with pre-snap reads and it hurt the entire offensive line. Having this big of an upgrade at center not only ability wise but ability to read the defense can't be understated or undervalued for what it will do for the entire OL.

Brandon Browner is now your CB2, which means I can only hope you are playing Cover 1/3 defense, because he can't play outside of that. I would know, I just watched 15 games from him this past season. He's good if you put Byrd right over him, which will put Vaccaro in a very difficult position. He struggled big time last year, and if he plays the same way that could be very worrisome. I also don't love the combination of Breaux/Wilson/SJB in the slot, as teams like the Giants will extremely exploit this mismatch.

Brandon Browner is a sizeable upgrade from Patrick Robinson and Corey White regardless of what coverage we are in. He may not be a shutdown corner or anything but I'm more than happy with the upgrade. Delvin Breaux has probably been the star of the offseason. He vaulted himself into the nickel roll before we even got to camp, which is something you never see in a Sean Payton led team. Guys like him have to earn it, and he got there quicker than anyone I've seen. We also have PJ Williams, a young talented rookie, and Kenny Vacarro will be back playing more towards the line, where he has shined his two seasons in the league.

The Saints lost more than they got this offseason, plain and simple. I wasn't discrediting them in saying they didn't get anything in return for their losses, but they weren't substantial. You lost the best receiver the Saints franchise has had since Joe Horn and replaced him in-house. Maybe Hill steps up, maybe he doesn't. Regardless, he won't fill that 120 target void. You traded Kenny Stills for Ellerbe, which was just plain stupid. Thank god you drafted Anthony because Ellerbe should lose that starting job before Week 1 -- he's awful. Stills did great as the #2 WR, and you again didn't get a replacement for him.

The Saints aren't going to replace Graham with one guy. It will be with a number of guys. They won a Super Bowl without Graham, have been one of the best offenses routinely since Payton got here, and they have been more than fine when he has had to sit out of games. I'm not the least bit worried about it, because I know how good Sean Payton and Drew Brees are. They traded Stills for a pick and Ellerbe, and it had nothing to do with his play on the field. Payton has said on numerous occasions that they would not have made that deal if they didn't have guys waiting to replace him. Brandin Cooks, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon, Joe Morgan, Seantavious Jones. The Saints have quietly put together a very young and talented receivers corps.

You're losing 316 targets just from Stills, Graham, Thomas, and Cadet. Spiller had 22 targets last year (granted didn't play all year, but when scaled up it equates to about 39 targets), and Josh Hill had 20. Cooks, who had 70 targets, is expected to have a significantly larger role, which I hope he flourishes in because I think extremely high of him, but that's a lot of pressure on the young kid.

I really can't believe we're even questioning the Saints offensively. They'll be more one of the top offenses in the league again.

And let's not make the 6 win total such a ridiculous concept here. You won 7 games last year, and I predicted a 1 win drop-off due to a harder schedule and loss of talented receivers. They hardly dropped off compared to Arizona and Kansas City, according to my predictions.

I don't think you even mentioned Ben Watson, and I wouldn't be surprised if Orson Charles made some impact at TE. This team still has a plethora of weapons. Mark Ingram, CJ Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Marques Colston, Brandin Cooks, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon, Joe Morgan, Seantavious Jones, Ben Watson, Josh Hill. Drew Brees and Sean Payton. The offense will be just fine.

Defensively, we'll be getting a lot of guys back from injury. Jarius Byrd, Rafael Bush, Akiem Hicks, and Cam Jordan are just four guys that were either on IR or played the majority of the season hurt that will be healthy. We added athleticism and got more tough as well.

PopnFrshTV · Aug 3, 2015

i think the jets will instead go 10-6 or 9-7
Browns will win 7 games
Indianapolis will go 12-4
Oakland might win 6 or 7 maybe 8
giants might have an 11-5 season if they're lucky,
but i can agree with the rest

Pugz · Aug 4, 2015

pretty solid stuff here. id be really pissed if we got to meet dallas again and lost.

BwareDWare94 · Aug 4, 2015

nolafan33 said:
No way the Saints only win 6 games

A. Unless your defense is way better, 6 might even be a little high

AND

B. Drew Brees has 48 INTs over the last 3 seasons. 16 per year on average. He's a great quarterback but when all is said and done those high INT numbers will come into play. He has to turn the ball over less.

84 INTs over 5 years.

Romo 55 over 5 years
Rodgers 36 over 5 years
Brady 44 over 5 years
Peyton 69 over 5 years (went back 6 years to make up the season he missed)
Ben 50 over 5 years
Rivers 79 over 5 years

So of the top 7 QBs who have been active over the past 5 years, Drew Brees is only approached in INT numbers by Phillip Rivers. He also has 29 fumbles (I don't know how many were lost).

What I'm basically saying is that Drew Brees is massively overrated. He has had stellar, legendary seasons but he is not that great all the time, which is how he's perceived.

jonathanlambert33 · Aug 5, 2015

BwareDWare94 said:
A. Unless your defense is way better, 6 might even be a little high

AND

B. Drew Brees has 48 INTs over the last 3 seasons. 16 per year on average. He's a great quarterback but when all is said and done those high INT numbers will come into play. He has to turn the ball over less.

84 INTs over 5 years.

Romo 55 over 5 years
Rodgers 36 over 5 years
Brady 44 over 5 years
Peyton 69 over 5 years (went back 6 years to make up the season he missed)
Ben 50 over 5 years
Rivers 79 over 5 years

So of the top 7 QBs who have been active over the past 5 years, Drew Brees is only approached in INT numbers by Phillip Rivers. He also has 29 fumbles (I don't know how many were lost).

What I'm basically saying is that Drew Brees is massively overrated. He has had stellar, legendary seasons but he is not that great all the time, which is how he's perceived.

That's all pretty subjective numbers. Why not bring up TD's? Drew has thrown 59 more TD's than Romo in that timespan. Nearly 30 more than Rodgers and Brady, 70 more than Big Ben, and 48 more than Rivers.

This is because of how much he throws the football. Closing in on 1000 more than Romo and Rodgers, 800 more than Big Ben, 530 more than Rivers, nearly 450 more than Brady, and so on.

More passes equals more turnovers obviously.

Our defense will be better just getting the guys that we had injured in house back this season, along with upgrades at more positions. We had guys that even played through injuries that should have gone out that will be back healthy.

BwareDWare94 · Aug 5, 2015

FTR, I think Sean Payton's refusal to actually try to go run-game first has hurt Brees as far as TOs are concerned. I think New Orleans could have been running the ball for quite a lot of Brees' tenure.

jonathanlambert33 · Aug 5, 2015

We will run the ball more this season

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